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		The Cleanup Barnstar
		This barnstar is awarded to Tenryuu for copy edits totaling over 12,000 words (including bonus and rollover words) during the GOCE November 2024 Backlog Elimination Drive. Congratulations, and thank you for your contributions! Dhtwiki (talk) 23:11, 4 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

		The Cleanup Barnstar
		This barnstar is awarded to Tenryuu for copy edits totaling over 12,000 words (including bonus and rollover words) during the GOCE January 2025 Backlog Elimination Drive. Congratulations, and thank you for your contributions! Dhtwiki (talk) 11:10, 3 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

		Guild of Copy Editors Leaderboard Award: Old Articles, 4th Place
		This Leaderboard Barnstar is awarded to Tenryuu for copyediting 4 old articles during the GOCE January 2025 Backlog Elimination Drive. Congratulations, and thank you for your contributions! Dhtwiki (talk) 11:10, 3 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Hey Tenryuu, wanted to thank you for removing descriptions of 'notable people' of 'Saurashtra'. A while ago, I had removed 'Father of Nation' and 'Mother of Nation' from in front of Mahatma Gandhi and Fatima Jinnah respectively. Though Gandhi is colloquially known as such in India, the Constitution extends no such titles to anyone. I can't speak for whether Fatima Jinnah is colloquially considered 'Mother of Nation' in Pakistan, but at any rate, I couldn't find any official acknowledgement of it online. I wasn't sure whether to alter the rest of the descriptions, but most of them were, like these two, erroneous or just as you said not NPOV. Once again, thank you for your edits. Truly appreciated. —@TheCosmos999

TheCosmos999 (talk) 08:20, 8 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

You're welcome. I run into many India-related articles while copyediting and many, unfortunately, tend to violate NPOV. Keep up the good work. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 00:29, 9 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. I am actually new here. I mean, I've been reading Wikipedia for a long time but only began contributing recently. Mostly copyedit and can remove stuff that is eroneous. Haven't added anything. Anyway, I meant to ask, and I couldn't find much about this elsewhere, what is the proper etiquette for talk pages on Wikipedia. Like is it appropriate to chat here? Like I am doing right now? Besides whether or not the owner of the talk page is interested in a conversation, what is wikipedia's policy about it?

Best,

TheCosmos999 (talk) 15:16, 14 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

As I mentioned to EEng, I'd suggest dropping the stick (mutually, in this case). Personally, though I think you're in the right policy-wise, I don't think it's worth an edit war over. If it's that big of a deal, let someone else take up the charge. But I can't see how an edit-war over something trivial on AN/I leads to a positive outcome for anyone involved. Just my 2 cents. ⇒SWATJester ^{Shoot Blues, Tell VileRat!} 23:58, 2 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• I completely agree that Tenryuu should take the hint that no one but he sees a problem here. If he'll abandon his campaign to impose his personal ideas of what is and is not appropriate in others' posts, then we can all get back to useful editing. EEng 00:06, 3 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  As I've stated elsewhere, my only concern is the addition of comments into discussions after they're closed. I have no policy, guideline, or guidance to fall back on if they're done outside of {{atop}} and {{abot}}, even if I find them to be distasteful for places like ANI. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 00:19, 3 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• @Swatjester: Thanks for letting me know your concerns, and I will agree we're both being obnoxious. I admit I am being a stickler more than I usually am on this site, but I've found EEng's behaviour on ANI over these past years to be highly disrespectful (especially when it comes to decisions that involve a user being blocked such that it straddles gravedancing) with adding commentary in the form of "zingers" that aren't productive to a discussion. I suspect being let off the hook for that sort of behaviour (that newer editors would be chastised for) more times than I can count with all my digits has something to do with it.
  I do not care if EEng practices their comedy routine elsewhere on Wikipedia; I would only ask them to respect policies and guidelines (as well as declarations on templates like {{atop}}; especially declarations on templates like {{atop}} to preserve discussion integrity), the ANI process, and the editors involved. I've been in forums where people have been frustrated over being sanctioned or blocked over Wikipedia policy—which I'll admit can be arcane to the casual editor—and having someone who thinks they're funny making fun of editors on the dramaboards doesn't help with their perception of this site. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 00:17, 3 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  I've worked with EEng for many years, sometimes productively ("ha ha only serious" essays that are funny but also insightful), sometimes not productively (eg: Talk:Widener Library/GA1). Anyway, I agree with Swatjester - this is not something worth getting worried about, and the encyclopedia isn't getting harmed. Indeed, while I appreciate people get frustrated especially if they feel they are the butt of EEng's joke, I've found if you ignore it, there's no real harm done. Ritchie333 ^{(talk) (cont)} 08:21, 3 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  Thanks for your insight, Ritchie333. My concern is that it becomes a slippery slope for when someone else thinks they're funny and starts adding non-productive content inside closed discussions, and holding them accountable for going against written guidance becomes moot and unenforceable. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 15:15, 3 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  FWIW I get that and conceptually agree with it; but like....a closed discussion is going to archive shortly, where the non-productive content will be even less visible (like to the point that I expect practically nobody will see it -- a random spotcheck of Archive 350 shows 2 average daily page views). Every time one of y'all was editing that section it just kept it out there on the much more highly visible page for even longer. Glad this was able to come to some kind of resolution though. ⇒SWATJester ^{Shoot Blues, Tell VileRat!} 20:08, 3 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  I get that from a practical standpoint it means nothing in the long run; I can't say I necessarily approve of letting things like this constantly slide, though, because it can set a bad precedent if something similar happens in the future. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 22:18, 3 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

		The (modern) Guild of Copy Editors Barnstar
		This barnstar is awarded to Tenryuu for copy edits totaling over 40,000 words (including bonus and rollover words) during the GOCE March 2025 Backlog Elimination Drive. Congratulations, and thank you for your contributions! Dhtwiki (talk) 06:27, 7 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

		Guild of Copy Editors Leaderboard Award: Total Articles, 5th Place
		This Leaderboard Barnstar is awarded to Tenryuu for copyediting 11 articles during the GOCE March 2025 Backlog Elimination Drive. Congratulations, and thank you for your contributions! Dhtwiki (talk) 06:27, 7 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

		Guild of Copy Editors Leaderboard Award: Old Articles, 3rd Place
		This Leaderboard Barnstar is awarded to Tenryuu for copyediting 11 old articles during the GOCE March 2025 Backlog Elimination Drive. Congratulations, and thank you for your contributions! Dhtwiki (talk) 06:27, 7 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Guild of Copy Editors April 2025 Newsletter Hello and welcome to the April 2025 newsletter, a quarterly digest of Guild activities since December. Don't forget you can unsubscribe at any time; see below. We extend a warm welcome to all of our new members. We wish you all happy copy-editing. Election results: In our December 2025 coordinator election, Wracking stepped down as coordinator; we thank them for their service. Incumbents Dhtwiki, Miniapolis, and Mox Eden were reelected coordinators, and IQR and WikiEditor5678910 were newly elected coordinator, to serve through 30 June. Nominations for our mid-year Election of Coordinators will open on 1 June (UTC). Drive: 55 editors signed up for our January Backlog Elimination Drive 33 claimed at least one copy-edit and copy-edited 611,404 words in 237 articles. Barnstars awarded are here. Blitz: 14 editors signed up for our February Copy Editing Blitz. 10 claimed at least one copy-edit and copy-edited 46,749 words in 18 articles. Barnstars awarded are here. Drive: 47 editors signed up for our March Backlog Elimination Drive. 28 claimed at least one copy-edit and copy-edited 479,172 words in 207 articles. Barnstars awarded are here. Blitz: Sign up for our April Copy Editing Blitz, which runs from 13 to 19 April. Barnstars will be awarded here. Progress report: As of 9:45, 12 April 2024 (UTC), GOCE copyeditors have processed 89 requests since 1 January 2024, and the backlog stands at 2,264 articles. Thank you all again for your participation; we wouldn't be able to achieve what we have without you! Cheers from your GOCE coordinators Dhtwiki, IQR, Miniapolis, Mox Eden and WikiEditor5678910. To discontinue receiving GOCE newsletters, please remove your name from our mailing list.

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