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I'm looking for a template which can be used to produce a message for an article where its size has grown too large - probably as part of the cleanup category templates. Stolen from Wikipedia:Article size, the following code:

<div id="longpagewarning" style="border-width:1px;border-style:solid;border-color:#aaaaaa;padding:3px"> '''Note:''' This page is XXX kilobytes long. It may be appropriate to split this article into smaller, more specific articles. See [[Wikipedia:Article size]]. </div>

....produces this:

Which seems fine. I couldn't find any template similar to this, though. So, my questions, if you please:

1. Does anyone know of an already existing template similar to this?
2. If not, I'll create the template myself (would prefer to, as a way of learning), but am unsure of what can be used as a variable for the article size, which can normally (only?) be found when searching for the article in question

Any help would be appreciated. —Xhantar^Talk 10:03, 6 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

There are {{long}}, {{toolong}}, {{Verylong-section}}. PrimeHunter 13:02, 6 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

• Article size is not available as a magic word or built-in variable so there is no way to do this automatically. —Dgies^t c 19:24, 6 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your replies. Any one of the templates mentioned by User:PrimeHunter will do the trick. For some reason I just wasn't able to find them listed or categorized anywhere. I assumed they would be listed at Wikipedia:Template_messages/Cleanup. —Xhantar^Talk 19:45, 6 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I have been trying to create the Template:32TeamBracket-Compact-Tennis3, but I'm doing something wrong in the final round. Here is the result. Could anybody help me? Thank you. MontanNito 14:24, 13 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I think I fixed it for you. You had a bad colspan value and needed the connector bars added.—Dgies^t c 17:32, 13 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Perfect, thank you very much :-) MontanNito 18:06, 13 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

There should be a more templates made for baseball managers. If you look at Joe Torre's page, you will see that he has a template for being a current manager, one for the Mets, but not one for any other team he has managed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.249.39.240 (talk)

That is not a request for the creation of a template. It is a request for people to add more succession box templates to various articles. If you know what articles you want updated, and what succession boxes you need added, you can probably just add them to the articles yourself. If you are not confident enough to do that, say exactly what additions you want here, like "Joe Blow was the pitching coach of Yankees from 1940-1942, he was proceeded by John Doe and succeeded by Bob Smith". —Dgies^t c 23:35, 14 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

There is a citation template for album notes {{cite album-notes}}, and if someone wants to cite DVD notes or the DVD cover, they must use this template. There should be a seperate template:

{{cite DVD-notes |title= |titleyear= |titlelink= |director= |format= |location= |year= |distributor= |distributorid= }}

• Title: Title of the movie on the DVD (no Wikilink)
• Titleyear: Year the movie was made (no Wikilink)
• Titlelink: A Wikipedia link to the article about the film, if applicable (no Wikilink)
• Director: Director of the movie (Wikilink if possible)
• Format: Where or how the notes are represented, i.e. booklet, inset, back cover, front cover, liner, etc.
• Location: The location of the DVD distributor to the smallest geographical unit possible (Wikilink if possible)
• Year: The year the DVD was distributed/released (no Wikilink)
• Distributor: The distributor of the DVD (i.e. Shriek Show, VIPCO (Video Instant Picture Company), MGM Home Entertainment, etc.) (Wikilink if possible)
• Distributorid: The catalog number of the DVD from the distributor

— Helltopay27 18:28, 16 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

• Seems like a reasonable idea. Maybe I'll work on it tonight. Harass me if you don't see anything back here in 24 hours. —Dgies^t c 22:11, 16 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

• OK, created {{Cite DVD-notes}}. Leave me a message if you have any problems. —Dgies^t c 22:41, 17 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

• You need to provide more information. What should the template do? —Dgies^t c 18:44, 22 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Perhaps I'm missing a template that already exists but I really need a template that says something along the lines of: "Most or all of the references or citations in this article are inadequate as reliable sources. Please find verifiable and reliable sources for the information in this article." The example article for this is Heidi holt. Perhaps any one of the cites would be fine for substantiation of non-hoax or such for one fact, but when an entire article is hung on such thin sources, it seems to me this should be noted. {{ureliable}} probably comes closest but still doesn't quite cover this. --Pig^man_{Talk to me} 19:27, 26 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

• Offhand I could suggest Template:Primarysources, Template:Onesource, Template:Citecheck or Template:Unverifiable-external-links. None of these are exactly perfect. I'm not sure its worth making a specific template for the case where there are many citations but none of good quality. I would pick whichever of these looks best and leave a message on the talk page. If there is no response after a while, strike external links you feel are worthless as a source and then tag as lacking references. —Dgies^t c 21:02, 26 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, I was afraid what I'm looking for is a little too specific and strange. I'll check through the templates you suggested. It was just an article with 6 external links to sites like iTunes, really rather poor quality for cites. As I said, cites that barely proved the info wasn't a hoax but hardly what I'd call good sources. Thanks very much for the pointer. --Pig^man_{Talk to me} 01:02, 1 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Here is something I want it to look like. Use this background color 255, 0, 0. This template will actually take in a box. And say this (in blockquoted text).

The page you are visiting is NOT an encyclopedia article. You are actually visiting a mirror site. If you are on this page, this is a talk page. This is a place for you to sign your name and add messages. To sign your name, you must use ~~~~ for signing your name and timestamp, ~~~ for signing your namestamp, and ~~~~~ for signing your timestamp only.

Loop 101 Dead! 14:39, 27 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

This may already be covered by {{talkheader}}. (And "mirror" has a different meaning in the context of Wikipedia than what I think you're getting at.) Finally, red as a background color? Have mercy on my eyes! :) Gracenotes^T § 18:21, 27 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Note: requester has been indefblocked as a sockpuppet of User:Sklocke —Dgies^t c 19:11, 28 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I'd really appreciate a Carpenters singles/discography/TV Specials template. Could somebody make it resemble the Beatles template?

{{The Beatles Singles}}

For questions about the Carpenters' singles/TV Specials/discography, you can visit my talk page. Cuyler91093 18:37, 28 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I think it might make sense for a Carpenters discography template, but there are some caveats:

1. The TV specials do not have articles, so it makes no sense to include them
2. A lot of the singles do not have articles, so we should only include the ones that are notable.
3. What should be done for singles which are just covers by The Carpenters? It seems misleading to include them.

Your thoughts? —Dgies^t c 18:57, 28 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Dgies. I tried making a template. It doesn't look good (there are a lot of missing links), but you can see it here.

Navigation templates like these are used to help users find related articles. Having redlinks in them is a bad idea unless you are sure the subject really deserves an article. I think it would be best if you had only two sections in the template: One for their albums, and the other for singles which have a separate page for that single (not just covers). —Dgies^t c 19:46, 28 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

• Okay. Perhaps you could help me?
  • What exactly are you having trouble with? It looks like you know what you're doing. —Dgies^t c 03:35, 3 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I'm wondering if a template should be made for articles which are so complex/technical that they really require "translation" for even a reasonably well-educated individual to read. Something like

The level of technical information presented in this article may render it incomprehensible
to the lay reader.  Please consider rewriting it or adding a section suitable for a 
less-than-expert reader.

I glanced at Hilbert space and realized that even though I'm fairly well-read and no dolt by any means, I had not the foggiest idea what it means.

*Septegram*Talk*Contributions* 23:11, 28 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I believe you are looking for {{Technical (expert)}}. —Dgies^t c 23:25, 28 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Fantabulendositous. Thank you. There are so many templates that it's hard for a relative newcomer to know them all.

*Septegram*Talk*Contributions* 14:39, 1 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I looked at Hilbert space too. It's in Category:Linear algebra. I didn't understand it, but I bet that's because I don't know anything about linear algebra. Because Wikipedia is hypertext, in my opinion it's ok to have articles too hard for nontechnical readers to understand. :-) --unforgettableid | how's my driving? 18:35, 8 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

--TomasBat (@)(Sign) 23:54, 3 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I see, so what exactly are you requesting? —dgies^t_c 20:49, 4 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I am requesting a banner from wikiproject Iwerks, like the rest of the wikiporjects have got... --TomasBat (@)(Sign) 00:37, 9 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Didn't you just make one above? What's left to request? Do you need help starting a new page? —dgies^t_c 02:20, 9 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

• Whoa. I just noticed you are using a fair use image in the template for purely decorative reasons. That is a big no-no. Is there some free image you could use? —dgies^t_c 08:18, 9 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

How about this. I changed the image to a home-made one which a created in 2 minuites; it isn´y very good, but it will fit until a better one is found, if a better one is found, of course.

	This article is within the scope of the Iwerks WikiProject. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the project and see a list of open tasks.
???	This article has not yet received a rating on the quality scale.

--TomasBat (@)(Sign) 21:33, 10 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

OK, looks good. Now you have all the markup for a WikiProject banner template. You still haven't said what you need help doing. —dgies^t_c 21:49, 10 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Just wanted to see in what I could improve it... Such as the fair-use image. Now how do I create it? --TomasBat (@)(Sign) 02:08, 11 March 2007 (UTC) To create a template - all you need to do is go to an address that starts with: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:[reply]
So for example - you could copy that code you did, go to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Iwerks_Banner - paste it, and your done! (You would call the template by writing {{Iwerks_Banner}}.Daniel()Folsom |\^T/|\_C/|\^U/|^{(Can you help me with my signature?)} 17:23, 11 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I originally put this on Wikipedia talk:Template messages but have gotten no reply, so I'll try here.

Is there a template to put either on top of an article or section or at the end of a sentence that asks for clarification of words like "recently" or "soon"? If there isn't, I'd be happy to make it. I'd just need to know which is preferred: a general top-of-page one, a specific sentence one, or both. Mr.Z-mantalk¢Review! 01:08, 4 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

As far as I know, your only options at present are either {{cleanup}} or {{update after}}. You could also replace those statements with "As of <date statement was added>". —dgies^t_c 20:59, 4 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Adding "As of <date statement was added>" would work, but only in recent additions, otherwise this could mean looking through quite a few revisions. Someone on the help desk suggested Template:Recentism but even that doesn't quite cover it. Unless someone objects, I'll make both templates (A general top-of-page one and a specific end-of-sentence one). Mr.Z-mantalk¢Review! 23:32, 4 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Because there are quite a few articles related to Kappa Mikey, someone should make a template for Kappa Mikey now. It should include the following:

• The article for Kappa Mikey
• Settings of the sshow, including LilyMu Towers
• These articles:
  • List of Kappa Mikey episodes
  • List of Kappa Mikey characters
    • The articles for the characters themselves (if there are any)
• And other articles that have to do with the show

I would do it, but I don't know how to. --Noone 05:14, 5 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

• OK, created {{Kappa Mikey}}. —dgies^t_c 21:10, 4 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Please see the Synopsis section of Sentou Yousei Yukikaze, which could use one of these. If one existed, it'd be a good warning sign that an article/a section should be completely re-done, not just tweaked for minor aspects.

Try {{Sectionrewrite}}. Mr.Z-mantalk¢Review! 20:43, 4 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Bone-Thugs-N-Harmony

Bow Wow Peecee1978 04:50, 5 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Was that a request or a random comment? If it was a request, we need more detail. —dgies^t_c 05:00, 5 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Why isn't there a "Reviews" option for the film infobox? The album infobox has one, and when viewed, it appears as "Professional Reviews," where you can place the name of the reviewer/review site and the number of stars.

This is how the "Reviews" option looks on the template in the edit pane for AC/DC's Back in Black:

| Reviews = * [[All Music Guide]] {{rating-5|5}} [http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=10:wzaxqjkboj6a link]

Now, let's say we added this to the template for the film infobox. The box for the movie Halloween would look like this:

| Reviews = * [[Roger Ebert]] {{rating-4|4}} [http://rogerebert.suntimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/19791031/REVIEWS/40823003/1023 link]

I'll only request it if someone responds, because I'm not sure if this has been answered/covered already. Leaving it like a question for now makes me look like less of a dumbass. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Helltopay27 (talk • contribs)

• This is a fully-protected template, so to edit it you would need to get consensus and help from an admin. There has been some previous discussion in this old thread where people were largely against the inclusion of "community review" sites. There has been no mention of professional reviews that I know of. If you want to go ahead with this, post at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Films and lay out your case. If people agree with you, post a request to edit a protected page at WP:RPP. —dgies^t_c 22:35, 5 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I'll take this one, if it's okay with the rest of you. anthonycfc ^[talk] 05:25, 11 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done - rejected by the WikiProject as unnecessary. anthonycfc ^[talk] 05:29, 11 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Can you point me to the thread? —dgies^t_c 05:35, 11 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

• I didn't see any concensus on professional reviews, and have relayed your proposal to Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Films. —dgies^t_c 06:03, 11 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hi all,

Sorry for off-topic: this is not a template request, but a question. Many tourist attractions, subway lines, etc. have a location and/or hours of operation posted on their Wikipedia articles. Do you think it'd be useful to have nice templates for this information so that this important info will be close to the top of every article and stand out? It could look like this:

Ontario Science Centre

• Location: 770 Don Mills Rd. at Eglinton Ave. E. (map)
• Hours: Open daily 10-5; closed Dec. 25. Hours may vary; phone ahead.
  Info is current as of March 2007.

And for businesses and tourist attractions, you could add extra info:

• Admission: CDN$14; over 64 and ages 13-17, CDN$10; ages 5-12, CDN$8. Theatre and special exhibits extra.
• Parking: CDN$8
• Phone: +1 (416) 696-3127

Yes, this information is very commercial, but it's useful, and being useful is what an encyclopedia is all about.

So, do you think this should be a template? Or do you think it's better just to put all this info in text form in some paragraph of the article?

Cheers, --unforgettableid | how's my driving? 18:30, 8 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I think that while this is obviously useful information, you may run afoul of WP:NOT#DIRECTORY. —dgies^t_c 19:33, 8 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Right. Don't add business hours, street addresses, or phone numbers. -- Rick Block (talk) 03:14, 11 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

OK, fine, I can see why phone numbers shouldn't be there (not only hard to verify, but also increased risk of exploiting Wikipedia for commercial use and/or pranks.) But does WP:NOT#DIRECTORY really mean that useful info such as hours and street addresses can't go on the articles of already-notable tourist attractions? If so, do you think it is likely I could get the rules changed? Cheers, --unforgettableid | how's my driving? 06:14, 12 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I want to make a template on the properties of fats and oils, but I don't know how to make templates. The title should be "Fats and oils" (including the Wikilink). Except for the name, most of the fields should be optional and should not appear unless the user enters a value. The bolded items are things I want in the actual template, while the nonbolded text simply explains what to put into each field. Please include the Wikilinks where I have given them. I have a pretty clear idea of which fields I'd like to have available and about how I want it to be laid out:

Fats and oils

Image: link to a Wikipedia Image file of the fat or oil in question.

Name: Name of the fat or oil (use article title if article is on the fat or oil in question)

Composition:

• Water content: Total percentage, by weight. Give minimum and maximum values if there's a range.
• Fat content: Total percentage, by weight. Give minimum and maximum values if there's a range.
• Nonfat solids: Total percentage, by weight. Give minimum and maximum values if there's a range.
• Sterols: Total percentage (plus list of individual fatty acid components and their percentage if possible – Wikilink if possible)

Fat composition (by percentage of total fat content):

• Saturated fats: Total percentage, plus list of individual fatty acid components and their percentage (Wikilink if possible)
  • Interesterified fats: Total percentage (plus list of individual fatty acid components and their percentage if possible – Wikilink if possible)
• Trans fats: Total percentage (plus list of individual fatty acid components and their percentage if possible – Wikilink if possible)
• Unsaturated fats: Total percentage
  • Monounsaturated fats: Total percentage, plus list of individual fatty acid components and their percentage (Wikilink if possible)
  • Polyunsaturated fats: Total percentage, plus list of individual fatty acid components and their percentage (Wikilink if possible)
  • (Omega-3 fatty acids): Total percentage
  • (Omega-6 fatty acids): Total percentage
  • (Omega-9 fatty acids): Total percentage

Properties:

• Food energy per 100 g: Food energy in kJ (food energy in kcal in parentheses)
• Melting point: Melting point temperature (at sea level) in °C (in °F in parentheses)
• Boiling point: Boiling point temperature (at sea level) in °C (in °F in parentheses)
• Smoke point: Smoke point temperature (at sea level) in °C (in °F in parentheses)
• Solidity at 20 °C: solid or liquid
  • Solid fat index at 20 °C: SFI at 20 °C.
• Specific gravity at 20 °C: Specific gravity at 20 °C
• Refractive index: Refractive index
• Iodine value: Iodine value
• Acid value: Acid value
• Acid degree value: Acid degree value
• pH: pH value
• Saponification value: Saponification value
• Unsaponifiable: Percentage of unsaponifiable matter
• Reichert value: Reichert value
• Polenske value: Polenske value
• Kirschner value: Kirschner value
• Shortening value: Shortening value
• Peroxide value: Peroxide value

References: If more than once source, please list in "ref" format.

Thanks in advance to whomever makes this template. Peter G Werner 19:27, 9 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

So what you're proposing is a new infobox type for use in articles about different types of oils, correct? For example, can you show me a couple articles you plan on adding this to? The reason I ask is that what I saw from a brief browsing is that most of these fields will be unused because there is no data for them on any particular oil. —dgies^t_c 19:56, 9 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

An infobox, correct. Some articles: Lard, Butter, Olive oil, Grapeseed oil, Corn oil, and others like this. And "no data on them"? These data are likely present in published, citable sources for most edible oils. Just because such data are not present in Wikipedia right now is no reason not to include these fields. Peter G Werner 20:29, 9 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

OK, you convinced me. Maybe I'll work on it a bit later. —dgies^t_c 20:51, 9 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks in advance! I've added one thing – since its going to be an infobox (good suggestion) a place at the beginning for an optional image would be a good idea. – Peter G Werner 23:12, 9 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I have started work at Template:Infobox oils. —dgies^t_c 03:43, 10 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

OK, should be done. Take a look. —dgies^t_c 08:23, 10 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Episode list doesn't work on large pages, see discussion, and for example the bottom of this page. Maybe someone can locate the problem. If it is caused by a Wikimedia bug, it would be good to have some simpler template that reproduces the bug. -- memset 21:25, 13 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I have investigated this. Please see my post at the village pump [1]. —dgies^t_c 22:23, 13 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]