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— Preceding unsigned comment added by Tech201805 (talk • contribs) 11:18, 20 September 2019 (UTC)

I want to add a new parameter, slogan = which displays it's slogan. Leomk0403 (talk) 02:23, 17 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done for now: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{edit template-protected}} template. Slogans and mottos have generally been removed from infoboxes in recent years. – Jonesey95 (talk) 03:09, 17 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I've noticed that we require a lot of work from editors to get standard values from Wikidata. Editors need to either create multiple almost identical {{Wikidata}} calls such as in Trillian (software) or create calls that calls pre-created templates such as in Internet Explorer and Template:Latest stable software release/Internet Explorer for Mac OS X. A lot of times these templates get abandoned like Template:Latest preview software release/Trillian.

I've created a version at Module:Multiple releases/sandbox which only requires from an editor 1 value. |platforms= which is a comma separated list (for example |platforms=android,ios,macos) and it returns the relevant data. Here is an example for Trillian (software) (note that the QID of Trillian for |software= is detected automatically when on the page and the |version_type= is passed by this template)

Android6.6.0.13^[1]  / 25 July 2023; 21 months ago (25 July 2023)iOS6.6.77^[2]  / 13 September 2024; 8 months ago (13 September 2024)macOS6.6.0.18^[3]  / 20 November 2024; 5 months ago (20 November 2024) Gonnym (talk) 19:07, 22 December 2021 (UTC) [reply]

Please ensure that only sourced information is fetched, per this RFC. It might be possible to make use of {{Wdib}} or its companion module to make that retrieval easier. – Jonesey95 (talk) 22:25, 22 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I've spent an hour looking at the doc of that template to try and figure out how to get the call to work but couldn't figure out (I used the same exact template usage from the article), so if you can give me the correct usage, I can modify it to work. Gonnym (talk) 01:25, 23 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I try to stay away from Wikidata and that template unless it is doing something it shouldn't be asked to do. Wikidata has been too opaque for me to decipher. – Jonesey95 (talk) 05:32, 23 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I've slightly adjusted the module so that only sourced information is fetched. I hope we can use the module in articles soon. —Dexxor (talk) 19:27, 15 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The testcases seem to pass. If there is no other issue, I'll do another pass to cleanup, doc, etc and we can add it to the template. Gonnym (talk) 21:14, 15 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

When a software wasn't updated in years, but is still popular enough, stating discontinued = yes for it almost immediately drives its fans to bully and threaten those that added the statement.

Their main claim is that such a statement must be sourced. But unless the software officially states its discontinued state, which is very unlikely, no one will ever write about it. This requirement means that a software can release no update 10 years, but any attempt to state its discontinued state will be considered controversial.

Can you assist:

1. Defining a time frame for "discontinued"? Half a year? 1 year? 2 years? 10 years?
2. Defining is it enough that no official versions are released? Or can occasional repo updates, which mean nothing to end users, halt the discontinued state?

Thanks! Cardace (talk) 17:26, 14 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Cardace: Strictly speaking, you can only set that value in the infobox if you have a statement in the body of the article, supported by a source, saying the software is discontinued. It need not be the developer of the software that makes this statement. But it can't just be you, a humble Wikipedia editor, deciding it. — jmcgnh^{(talk) (contribs)} 19:00, 14 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Is it thus acceptable most of the softwares out there, even if they weren't updated in 10 years, will forever be written in Wikipedia as active, since verifiable sources don't tend to write an article about how a certain software got discontinued? A software probably has to be used by millions for a verifiable source to actually write how it got discontinued. -Cardace (talk) 19:55, 15 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I have used plenty of ten-year-old software that was never formally discontinued. We report what reliable sources say; that's how Wikipedia is supposed to work. – Jonesey95 (talk) 20:15, 15 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

A program can be fully operational yet still discontinued as in having no new official versions. But almost no one will ever write about it. -Cardace (talk) 16:22, 16 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]