Wikipedia:Bots/Requests for approval/Speedy Deletion Bot

The following discussion is an archived debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section. The result of the discussion was Withdrawn by operator.

Operator: Chris G

Automatic or Manually Assisted:Automatic with some supervision when I'm around.

Programming Language(s):Perl Using PerlWikipedia

Function Summary:Bot monitors the recent changes for edits that are removing a speedy tag and is by the creator of the article it then adds the tag and warns the user. a diff of the edit to a page the edit is then checked by new page patrolers and necessary action is taken.

Edit period(s) (e.g. Continuous, daily, one time run):Continuous.

Edit rate requested: No more than 5 edits per min

Already has a bot flag (Y/N): Not yet

Function Details: See Here

What if the remove is okay, like if the creator talks to the user who added the tag? ~ Wikihermit 02:32, 10 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I oppose this idea. If you're a user in good standing and you genuinely think the article you created is not applicable for speedy deletion, there's nothing wrong with your ignoring the rules and removing the tag to prevent an overzealous sysop from deleting it. Replacing removed tags should not be done by bots, because bots are incapable of analyzing the situation for exceptions from the rule about removals. Maybe instead of actually replacing the tag and warning the user, the bot notes the removal and adds the diff a list, which new page patrollers have on their watchlist. Then, at least, humans will be able to determine if the removal was merely an attempt to avoid the deletion, or whether it was a good-faith disagreement over the article's fitting under the criterion. Picaroon (Talk) 04:23, 10 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The user just adds the hangon tag, thats what I'd do. --Chris ^g 08:48, 10 July 2007 (UTC) [reply]

On second thoughts I think I will use that idea, I'm going to sart changing the code now. --Chris ^g 09:56, 10 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Interesting idea, as long as the delete rampage folks don't go nuts crazy off it and delete everything it might be pretty useful. We do really need to watch the AGF though -- Tawker 05:09, 11 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

If you are going to go with the list idea, I'd like to suggest you also have it periodically prune the list for articles that have been deleted or been without the speedy tag for so many days. I'd also suggest not adding an article to the list if the article creator has made so many edits (such as 1000 or something), in order to keep more in line with AGF. --Android Mouse 21:41, 11 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The bot idea itself is sound, and I would very much like to see what kinds of abuses of the CSD system it can turn up. However, the people interpreting the list may be unsound, especially if they don't assume good faith and immediately attack everyone merely for removing a speedy. So user education will be necessary, as well as a big notice at the top of the list. --Cyde Weys 03:29, 12 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I've finished the source code can I have a trial run? --Chris ^g 11:44, 15 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Absolutely! Approved for trial. Please provide a link to the relevant contributions and/or diffs when the trial is complete. for a day or so, long enough for us to get a good sample of the edits it will make. --ST47Talk 11:46, 15 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Ok I'll get it running sometime tomorrow morning (It's 8pm here and I've got other stuff to do) --Chris ^g 12:12, 15 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I like the idea of the bot, but I think you may want to get it renamed/just create a new account. To a new person, Speedy Deletion Bot probably sounds like a bot that deletes pages. "Possible Speedy Deletion Checker Bot", or something shorter? --(Review Me) R ^ParlateContribs_@ (Let's Go Yankees!) 01:12, 17 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Scrap That I'll change it to Chris G Bot. --Chris ^g 05:48, 17 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry I think I'm going to put this bot on hold indefinitely as I'm finding quite a few hard to find bugs in source, I've found anther bot idea to work on and I'm having trouble finding a pace to host the bot. If anyone who like to take up the chanlenge of this bot places contact me by email or on my tlak, I will be happy to give the the account and the source is on it's sub page. --Chris ^g 10:13, 17 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Withdrawn by operator. —METS501 (talk) 16:49, 27 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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