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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of mayors of Dodge City, Kansas

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was merge‎ to Dodge City, Kansas#Government. For whomever executes the merger, the recommendation for a collapsible list is wise. (non-admin closure) Dclemens1971 (talk) 19:59, 19 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

List of mayors of Dodge City, Kansas

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List of mayors of Dodge City, Kansas (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View log | edits since nomination)
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List article of not notable local politicians. Lost in Quebec (talk) 09:47, 5 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Along with Lawrence Deger and Hamilton Bell. GeorgiaHuman (talk) 16:14, 5 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Reply. Size does matter. A place like Estherville, Iowa, does not warrant a list of mayors. Clarityfiend (talk) 08:57, 11 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    When we look at WP:N, size is not a characteristic to determine whether a subject meets our notability guidelines. The core standard is "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject." So, as long as there is sufficient coverage, a stand-alone page/list could exist. A quick search for "real-world notability" in our talk pages shows there is no consensus for a policy to determine what is "worthy of notice" besides GNG coverage. So, the question for any list of mayors is not the size of the city, but a) whether there is sufficient coverage for a stand alone page, meeting WP:NLIST or b) whether a stand alone page is warranted because of the size of the parent page and the size of the list, or other WP:DUE factors.
    I generally think a merge may be better in many cases than a stand-alone list, but in this case, I worry about the size of the parent page if the list is added. The list of mayors page for Dodge City contains over 20 entries and is not (at this moment) a complete list. So, from a readably perspective, a stand-alone list is preferable. - Enos733 (talk) 01:11, 12 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 23:16, 12 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Merge to Dodge City, Kansas#Government, perhaps in a collapsible list to help readability. The concept of a list should exist somewhere on wikipedia, so we should not delete. Masohpotato (talk) 01:31, 13 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • The 2012 Arcadia Publishing book on Dodge City and the 2006 Historical Gazetteer of the United States (ISBN 9781135948597) make for interesting reading. History, for Dodge City, just stops, with the birth of Dennis Hopper in 1936, and most of the history for the 2 decades prior is related to movies and commemorations of the history up until around the turn of the 20th century. Which is why this list looks like it falls off a cliff, in terms of notability and sourcing and sudden appearance of c.s, just over one third of the way down. But even the top third is dodgy. History books don't record all of the annual elections, only the interesting ones. R. W. Evans in court in the 20th century didn't remember when xe was mayor, and no-one else records it. And not even all of the annual results that we do know are here, such as George M. Hoover's mayorship in 1876 or Gluck's being ousted in 1895. I have some doubt that it is actually possible to complete this list, even for the well-recorded part, let alone for the later part where mayors are being deduced from publication dates of gazetteers and directory publications. Uncle G (talk) 02:22, 13 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Merge - I don't see that this as a free-standing article is gonna help anyone with anything. Getting these name links onto the Dodge City > Government page would be helpful, however. Carrite (talk) 22:02, 17 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.